Conversations about business and mental health in a down-to-earth style with real-world language.

About the Show

Here’s How We Get There focuses on navigating through business and life. From motivation and mental health to marketing and business, you will find a mix of daily advice, tactics, segments from our podcast and video series, keynote speeches, interviews, and current thoughts.

Kenneth and Trey offer their insights daily to help you achieve success in business and in life.

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Meet the Team

Kenneth “Shark” Kinney

Kenneth Kinney is making waves teaching business growth through marketing innovation and customer experience. With nearly 30 years of brand, agency, and consulting experience, he has worked with many of the Fortune 200, over 50 colleges and universities, and hundreds of small to medium-sized businesses.

In his entertaining and engaging keynotes and workshops, he inspires leaders to dive deeper and find new perspectives to drive growth, amplify their brand, and create better experiences for their customers as well as their employees.

Known as “Shark” for his lifelong passion for swimming and diving with sharks, he helps inspire audience members and leaders to Be Fearless, Be Curious, and Dive Deeper!

Trey Tucker

Trey Tucker is a licensed mental health therapist with over 10 years of experience helping people achieve fulfillment, joy, and satisfaction in their lives. He has worked with corporate leaders, entrepreneurs, parents, students, and various organizations to maximize their performance and results by improving their mental health.

Known for his ability to connect on a deep level with individuals and large groups, Trey also holds specialized training in areas such as anxiety, trauma, relationship communication, sports psychology, identity, and purpose. He is also certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and neurofeedback.